all right, let's sway toward other things for a hot minute.

[amelialourdes]

I'm feeling better about yesterday's Lure thanks to the wonderful members of lure_atwt. Stories, videos, gifs? They all work.

Now that there's a bit of a Lure break until Thursday, let's discuss this brand spanking new CowLip interview that has randomly popped up out of nowhere. Now that I've had a little time to digest it all, I can happily say, what are they on and can I have some of it?

What is this "of course Brian and Justin are together"? There was never an of course. I think that they made a very strong effort for there not to be an of course. I remember the talk at the convention. Who was there? Postoff? There was quite the ruckus there. I remember the lack of communication between various writers and the creators of the show and the cast. I remember the joy I felt when I heard that Brian and Justin were getting married and it wasn't because I thought that their marriage would bond them together forever. I already felt like they were together forever but at least we'd get to see them have a happy ending, see them together to the end. Is that what happened? No.

I remember how pissed off I was to see Justin just disappearing like that and Brian bouncing around like a club boy, giving me the impression that -- no -- he never grew up and there he is dancing without Justin.

In case you need quotes from 2005 from both CowLip and Postoff, you can find it here in gaedhal's journal.

I mean, it's nice for them to think that that was their intention but it didn't seem like it was then. It's what they think it is now and personally, I just think that they're trying to appease people five years later. Most old fandom doesn't care about this now but they cared about it then and people who only watched through DVDs and caught up with the show later will probably accept these answers.

Sooooooooooooooooo sigh.

Comments

[amelialourdes.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that was it for me. I didn't want to see Brian alone on that platform. I didn't see it as celebratory. There was no mention of how he would go and see Justin regularly. He should've said something to Michael about it before hopping up on that platform. Justin should've been on that platform with everyone else. But, he wasn't and I can't pretend that he is -- even though I believe they did stay together. Bah.

You're not a sub-fan at all! I mean, if I were new to a show, I wouldn't go back and try to see every little thing that I missed or didn't read. I'd just enjoy what I saw. But, you're right. You're reading it now because it's new and it's here.

[gaedhal.livejournal.com]

As I wrote at the time and many times since then:

If it was supposed to be a "happy" Brian, that's NOT the
way Gale played it. Those final scenes are NOT a happy
man, no matter what the words are. He's devasted by the
loss of his lover, his son, his (supposed) friends --
his dance is like the one at the beginning of S3 when
he's stoned and sweating and miserable. He's in pain
management -- that's what Gale is playing -- and I believe
he had a handle on Brian better than anyone else. HE made
him human. HE made him an icon. It was all Gale. Let
CowLip think otherwise -- there would have been NO SHOW
without Gale Harold. Period. Underline. Twice.

[amelialourdes.livejournal.com]

I agree. I think I saw it that way too. That "final" goodbye to one another (which is what it was intended to be CowLip, don't lie to me) played in a completely different way. Someone said that. Who said that? I've been trying to think of who it was. It wasn't on that cast DVD was it? I swear someone said that it was written one way and it was Gale and Randy who played it in a way to make us believe that it wouldn't be forever. I know I'm not making this up.